Selecting and buying a metal milling machine for the hobbyist

As with my post Selecting and buying a metal lathe, this post is designed to make life a little easier for the hobbyist wanting to purchase a metal milling machine. I am by no means an expert in this subject but over the years of researching machining and going through the ins and outs to select a machine for my shop have come across points worth considering. I have borrowed pictures from all over and have done so under fair use as I do not generate any income from this work and it is purely educational in nature. This article does not cover how to measure wear in a milling machine which should absolutely be considered when purchasing a mill.

So why would anyone want a milling machine? If you like keeping your tools and machines for years and enjoy using old machines that are obsolete, then you really should consider a mill. The milling machine is able to remove material in 3 axis and is therefore invaluable for machining components and spare parts. For obsolete machines that will need occasional repairs, a mill is a crucial piece of equipment. When paired with a lathe, there is not much that can't be machined or repaired. In this post, I will only be focusing on manual milling machines, NOT CNC.

Parts of a mill and capacity
Before continuing, it's important for us to learn the names of the parts of mill, and understand how capacity is measured. The image below will be used as a reference:

For the head of the mill, the below image offers more detail:

It is worth mentioning at this point that the above images are of a particular style of mill that copies the Bridgeport mill. It has a knee that raises the table. There are also mills that have a head that can be dropped and raised which eliminates the need for a knee. An example of this mill style is below:

Instead of the knee moving the table up and down along a set of dovetails, the head instead is moved up and down following a set of dovetails. There are positives and negatives to each style which we will go into detail later.

In addition to the knee, there are also horizontal mills which differ somewhat to universal or vertical milling machines. In general horizontal millers are used when you really need to hog a lot of material from a workpiece and they particularly excell at cutting grooves.

In some cases you can have your cake and eat it too as there are milling machines that can be converted from vertical to horizontal such as with the fantastic Schaublin 52 and the Abene VHF 3.

With some milling machines, the table does not move in the y axis as the head is designed to accomodate y axis movement. This is the case with the Deckel FP2 as the head slides along dovetails to accomodate y axis movement:

Capacity
People often refer to the milling machine's table size when referring to the capacity such as 9 x 40, 8 x 22 etc. In this case, the table is measured in inches. This however only tells half the story as you still need to consider the clearance from the table to the column, and the table to the spindle. This will provide you with a 3 dimensional measurement of what will fit on the mill's table. To complicate this even further, you then need to consider the range of movement of the table in the x and y and z axis (see image below):

This is critical as it needs to be considered if you want to machine the full surface of a work piece without resetting it on the table.

I constantly give the following advice to those looking for machine, however people tend to ignore it. Buy a milling machine that will have a similar capacity to your lathe so it will contribute to a complimentary workshop. You really don't want to be limited by the capacity of any one machine in your workshop.

Spindle type
Although not strictly a capacity feature, the spindle taper type does limit your work envelope to an extent. If you need to change tools you may need to remove and replace tools. An R8 machine taper is longer than a 30INT for example, therefore will require more room to change which may mean having to tilt the head or removing the job from the table or vice. Examples of different spindle taper types below:

By the image you can see that length varies considerably between the various taper types. As can be expected, the more stout a spindle is, the more rigid it is. For example, ISO 40 is much more rigid than R8, however it may be more difficult to get tooling so you need to weigh up the availability, rigidity and clearance arguments when purchasing a machine.

Desirable milling machine features for a hobby machinist
Rigidity
There are many features that I believe are critical to a milling machine however as hobbyists we tend to overlook repeatability and rigidity. Rigidity is extremely important and the heavier the work you plan on doing, the more rigid you want your machine to be.
So what contributes to rigidity? The thickness of the materials in the column, the thickness of the table and the surface area of any mating surfaces all contribute to a stable machine. For example, my Jungner VF600 will be less rigid than a Deckel FP2 due to the union between the head and the column and the leverage that this union is subjected to:

Jungner:

Deckel:

This would mean that on a well designed machine, we would expect to see lower horsepower motors on less rigid machines in order to reduce stress, flex and vibration. This is the case when we compare the Deckel FP2 3 HP motor powering the spindle to the Jungner with a .75 HP motor.

As a general rule, you want the castings to be as thick as possible and any unions to have as much surface area as possible.You also want your machine to be as heavy as possible to dampen vibration and resonance.

Another feature to aid in the rigidity is the use of tapered spindle bearings. On many of the older machines spindle bearings were of the regular non tapered design paired with a thrust bearing. This meant that even a slight amount of wear would show itself in the finish. As the price of tapered bearings started to go down, more and more machines featured them as they could sustain large radial forces and act as good thrust bearings at the same time, while still being adjustable to take up any wear.
Unlike a drill, a mill often sufferes high thrust forces in the z axis in both directions plus axial forces, the abilityof the tapered roller bearings to tolerate these forces meant sustained precision over time. Anyone who has ever had an end mill pull out of a collet can attest to the forces acting on the spindle of a mill. For this reason, tapered roller bearings are pointed in towards each when supporting the mill's spindle:

Repeatability
The tolerances of a machine and the ability to lock the table and spindle all contribute to the repeatability of a machine. Since stability will also contribute to the stiffness of the column, table and head, it will also factor into the ability to make accurate passes repeatedly. Many of the European machines claimed tolerances of 5 microns or better - claims rarely made by far East manufacturers as this accuracy requires a great deal of time and cost to achieve. This can be remedied with some scraping and many have bought cheape Chinese machines and with some minor adjustments turn out very accurate work.

The backlash on the various axis of the mill will also need to be considered and accounted for in order to maintain repeatability. A digital readout helps to eliminate errors due to backlash however a DRO is not a necessity. One of the first things you should learn as a budding machinist is taking up back lash to eliminate cumulative errors.

Automatic feeds
Since a milling machine is often used to make surfaces flat and square to each other, automatic feeds are very useful as they help you to achieve a superior finish. They also mean you don't have to stand there cranking handles the whole time you are machining a large surface. Most of the smaller and cheaper machines have automatic feed in one axis, usually the x axis. If you plan on doing a lot of boring, then automatic downfeed is a very useful feature as it will allow you to achieve an excellent finish when boring.

There are various systems for automatic feeding along the x axis however in principle they function the same. The only real difference is how the speed is adjusted. Some milling machines have a motor coupled to a gearbox:

Others have pots that adjust the speed of the electric motor without the need of a gearbox:

Some machines utilize a central motor and feed shafts to drive table movements. This is the case on the lovely little Crouzet FC-100:

On larger machines, rapid table traverse is very useful to cut down machining times when you are just cutting in one direction. This is often the case if you are trying to avoid climb milling.

Rapid traverse for knee type milling machines is a very useful feature to have. Cranking the handle repeatedly to raise and lower the knee gets tiring and on long jobs, will leave you with tired arms and a sore wrist.

Quill
For those who struggle with space, having a milling machine with a quill means it can double up as a drill press. This is a very useful feature as it allows you to drill very precise holes that you can then enlarge with a boring head. Machines without a quill will require the whole head or knee to be moved in order to bore a hole which is far less convenient than a quill. The other advantage is that if you have automatic downfeed, you can do very heavy drilling operations without having to stand there for extended periods pulling on the quill handle.

Head tilt
The ability to tilt and "nod" the head of a machine makes it more flexible for complex milling jobs. Many machines have the tilting function but far fewer can nod the head. Some of the Bridgeport models have this feature and although it is infrequently needed, it can be a life saver and save having to set up your job repeatedly:

As a potential mill owner you need to keep in mind that everytime you mess with tilt or nod, you will need to tram your mill's head again.
Tramming is when you set the head to be at exactly 90 degrees to the y and x axis. Failure to tram the head will leave you with a range of issues ranging from poor finishes to work that is cut at any angle other than that you are shooting for.

Column type
Since we are breaching the topic of tramming, it is worth talking about the column types found on milling machines. Many of the far East machines are built to a budget and feature a round column:

This column type can be a challenge to tram and keep trammed if it lacks a keyway. Under heavy cuts it is often the case that the head will move relative to column, throwing out the tram. To remedy this, many manufacturers are now starting to make their mills with square columns or with dovetails like the Sieg X3:

This tends to be more of an issue with the smaller machines, usually bench top milling machines. However, I do have to emphasize that any mill is better than no mill at all. If you don't have a choice, get what you can then upgrade later.

Power
The power rating of the motor only tells a part of the story with milling machines. The power of the motor is calculated as the toque multiplied by the rotational speed of the axis. If you will be taking heavy cuts with large cutters, then you want high torque and lower speeds. Often, a good gearbox with a wide range of speeds or the same with pulleys is more important than the power of the motor.

So what speed range should you be looking for? I think a useful range should include an rpm below 100 for threading and large drilling, to around 2000 for smaller end mills.

This however is less important if you have a 3 phase machine as with a VFD you can slow down or speed up the motor by adjusting the incomping electrical frequency - this however comes at a loss of torque.

So this poses a question. What is better, belts or gears? I really don't think it matters too much with regards to reliability of the machine. There are some pros and cons of each type of head. Gears can handle higher torque but can be noisy. Belts can slip at higher torque but this is also an insurance policy as a slipping belt is nowhere near as big a problem as a gear that is destroyed by too much torque. I personally like belts because I have a small workshop and like machines to be quiter. Belts are also cheap to replace and require no maintenance.

Some milling machines have stepless variable speed heads. This is a feature found on the Bridgeport and means that speeds can be adjusted on the fly. This is usually achieved via a set of cone pulleys that expand and contract to adjust the speed:

It's very handy and I can attest to it's usefulness as my Chipmaster lathe has this feature.

3 phase motor
With the relative cheap price of variable frequency drives, 3 phase motors are no longer the headache they once were. If you come across a good machine that is 3 phase, don't be put off. As long as your home circuit can handle the current requirements, then all you need is a VFD. The advantage of a 3 phase motor is that it will often have reverse and will operate much smoother than a single phase motor.

Lubrication
On the more expensive machines, you will often see one-shot lubrication included as standard. This feature allows you to pump a plunger and distribute oil to all the necessary oiling points around the mill quickly and efficiently.

Although not a necessity, it is a useful feature when you consider that many milling machines have at least a half dozen oiling points. A poor lubrication regime is death to machine tools and as a general rule, your machines should be dripping oil. Too many people are penny poor and pound rich when it comes to lubrication. Oil is the cheapest thing you can buy that will ensure a long service life for your machine. Don't try to economize on using oil for your machine! Use the recommended oil and be careful of synthetic oils that contain sulfur. Sulfur will bond to yellow metals like bronze and rather than the sulfur breaking away under use, it will actually remove the foundation metal, erroding away the metal.

Handwheels
A nice feature is to have handwheels at each end of the table. This is quite handy when you want to avoid getting hit by hot chips or to observe a cut in progress.

Micrometer dials
This is redundant if you have a DRO or plan to install one but large, clear micrometer dials are a big plus on a mill. I don't have a DRO and only use the dials so I appreciate the large, satin chromed dials on my milling machine.

Coolant system
If you plan on doing serious machining work on your mill then you should consider using coolant. It extends the life of your cutters and contributes to a better finish. The lack of a coolant system is not a deal breaker as it can be added as an aftermarket item however it is nice to have. There are different types of systems.

Flood coolant:

Fog coolant:

There are advantages to both types however for many home shop hobbyists coolant is extra hassle and mess. I fall into this category and as such do not have coolant on my lathe, mill or bandsaw.

Useful accessories for a milling machine
Often when you are buying a machine you have the usual box or two of odds and ends that follow. Don't overlook the inclusion of these accessories since buying them seperately quickly comes to a large, difficult-to-justify figure. So here is a list of accessories that I think are very nice to get with your mill.

Collets and collet chuck
No matter what mill you buy, you will likely end up needing a collet chuck and collets. Collets allow you to accurately clamp cutters and accessories of differing sizes just by changing out a collet. If you are looking at an older machine or a machine with an obscure spindle taper, this accessory can mean the difference between purchasing the machine and walking away. Most modern spindle tapers utilize ER collets such as the ER32 collet:

Drill chucks
Good quality drill chucks like Albrecht and Rohm cost a great deal of money. Always check to see if these are included as they are an extremely handy accessory, especially if your mill has a quill.

A good German drill chuck is a thing of pure excellence, not to be compared with a cheap Chinese copy.

Rotary table
In my opinion a rotary table is a must have accessory for a milling machine. It allows you to clamp your workpiece then rotate accurately in order to drill holes, enlarge hole, cut arced slots etc. It opens up the possibilities significantly for your mill.

Just be aware that when considering tooling and work holding for your mill, the lower profile accessories are often better as they don't interfere with tool changing or capacity as much. As with the example above, many rotary tables can be used flat or stood up at 90 degrees to function as a dividing head with the inclusion of a chuck or tailstock. Regardless of how you plan to use the dividing head, having the full range of dividing plates and the tailstock will open your options. The dividing plates are useful as they have different hole counts that help you calculate angles quickly and when used with a dividing head allow you to cut gears.

Rotary table / dividing head:

Dividing plates:

Tailstock:

In use for cutting gears on a flywheel:

Dividing head
Rotary tables and dividing heads are often one and the same thing. By adding a chuck to a rotary table you can have a dividing head. This is the case with a dividing head I have recently ordered:

Here you can see that it would function as a rotary table as well, allowing work to be clamped using T nuts.

There are however dedicated dividing heads and these often allow you to adjust the angle of the work and it's rotation but are not well suited as a rotary table given their high profile:

Digital read out
In this day and age of new fangled digital gizmos, you can't look past a digital read out or DRO as they are known. A DRO is basically a digital representation of the position of your spindle. Many DROs have additional functions that allow you to calculate hole spacings or arcs. They eliminate the need to read the dials and also help eliminate errors due to backlash. They elso make life easier for those of us who's eyesight is not what it used to be:

There are 2 main types of scale used along the axis to establish the measurement. Glass scales are the older technology and are more prone to errors from wear and coolant however are generally cheaper. Magnetic scales are more reliable and their size can be adjusted just by cutting them shorter however they are more expensive.

As is often the case with used machines, not everything works as it should. Be aware that on older DRO units that you may not be able to find replacement scales as the plugs or communication protocol may have changed over time.

Dial test and dial indicators
Measuring tools are an essential part of machining and without them, even a man on a galloping horse will notice the poor fit and finish of your work. Necessary for tramming your mill and your vice, they are absolutely essential and if you can find a mill with the measuring equipment included, then this is definately a deal sweetener:

There are many different brands but some good ones are Somet, Mitutoyo, Starret and Noga. There is also a lot of specialized measuring equipment you can buy however dial indicators and dial test indicators are essential.

Vice
The milling vice is the go-to work holding for the milling machine. There are several versions of the milling vice. You have the precision milling vice:

The hydraulic milling vice that provides higher clamping forces through a hyraulic compression unit often in the handle:

Then there is the screw type vice that relies on the acme screw for it's clamping pressure:

Oil cans and pumps
Something I like to see with every machine I purchase are the oiling accessories. Be wary of machines that don't have the equipment at hand or have oiling points painted over or filled with grime. There are a range of different oil fittings like zerk:

Ball oil fittings:

Of course having a large box of endmills, parallels, indexable tooling and universal boring heads is also nice but this equipment is usually not sold on as it is often kept by the seller or bought early by family friends. If you are lucky enough to get a lathe with everything included then you are luckier than I have been.

Well that is about all I have the energy to write on the topic of selecting a milling machine for the hobbyist. I hope you found this useful and I wish you all the best in purchasing your new machine!

Selecting and buying a metal lathe

I know this topic has been done to death in many of the online forums but I figured it may be worth writing a blog post on this so you don't have to be a member of a forum to access the info. This post assumes you know a little about lathes but will still cover some of the basics.

First of all, why would you want a lathe? A lathe is a useful tool for material removal when trying to make an object cylindrical, threaded, or even spherical when using a ball turning attachment. They can be used to wind springs or even for polishing items. Lathes prove their usefulness when you need a part that is no longer manufactured or you need to create a component that is a special order item that is expensive. This is why many people who restore old machines and vehicles have them.

Parts of a lathe and it's capacity
Before we get into this, lets first have a look at the various parts of a lathe.

Most lathes follow the same general layout. They have the headstock at one end, and the tailstock at the other with a carriage in between that slides on the bed. Now if you look at the tailstock in the image above, you will see it has a pointy tip piece - called a centre )see picture below of a tailstock with a centre).

This is removable and a similar piece can be inserted into the spindle when the chuck is removed. This distance is called the "distance between centres" and gives you the longitudinal capacity of the lathe. Now the distance from the centre of the spindle to the bed is called the lathe's "swing".

The swing measurement is different depending on if you have an American machine or European.
For example an American machine would be described as:
10 x 20 - meaning that it can turn a 10 inch diameter  by 20 inches long piece

The identical machine described by the English convention would be described as:
5 x 20 - meaning it can turn a 5 inch radius  by 20 inches long piece

The capacity of the machine is a main consideration as it dictates the work envelope you can handle. There are a number of other points that dictate the type of work you can do like:

• Spindle hole diameter - the hole diameter through the headstock
• Horse power of the machine - power to take deep cuts and turn tough materials
• Ability to thread - metric, inch or both
• Speed range of the machine - the ability to use carbide and achieve smooth finishes
• Rigidity - how rigid and heavy the machine is that allows deep cuts

The capacity needs to be carefully considered by deciding what type of work you will be doing. If in doubt, buy a slightly larger lathe than you think you need.

Desirable lathe features for a hobby machinist
I am a member of several machinist forums and this question comes up a lot. The features of the machine after the size will dictate how efficient it will be to use the machine. When we talk about the features of the lathe, we are usually referring to time saving features that reduce the amount of work the operator needs to do.

Leadscrew
A lathe without a leadscrew is not able to turn threads and is therefore limited in it's usefullness to a hobbyist. If you will only have 1 lathe, buy one with a leadscrew.

Quick change gearbox
The quick change gearbox or QCGB as it is often abbreviated is really a must on a hobby machine in my opinion. The gearbox allows you to change the speed of the leadscrew in relation to the workpiece in the chuck, meaning you can quickly change the feedrate of the tool - allowing you to get finer finishes and also cut different pitches. Even with a QCGB, you may still need change gears to have flexability in the number of different pitches you can cut. If the lathe requires change gears these will be located on the opposite side of the lathe from the tailstock:

These can be hard to find or even obsolete as is the case with my Chipmaster above so do some research before you buy a certain machine that is missing the change gear set.

Back gear
On older lathes a back gear is an assembly that allows the lathe to be run very slowly with greatly increased torque. This is a useful addition for threading into blind holes or to a shoulder. It is also very useful for turning large diameter pieces as at low rpm the linear speed of the workpiece will match the linear speed of a small piece spun at substantially higher rpm. Newer lathes may not have a back gear as this assembly may be in a seperate gear case or within the headstock gearing.

Automatic cross feed
Since I have assumed that you should only consider a lathe with a leadscrew, this means that you are guaranteed automatic slide feeding (refer to the below diagram for this part)

You should also try to get a machine with automatic cross feed as this simplifies parting and facing operations. Automated feeding and facing will give you a nice uniform finish with little effort like this:

Quick change toolpost
When using the lathe it will be likely that you will need to change tools in order to complete your project. The tools need to be lined up with the center line of the spindle in order to avoid chatter:

or leaving nubs or nipples:

There are different types of quick change tool posts but all of them allow you to quickly change out tools with preloaded toolholders that return to the correct height setting each time they are attached to the post. A QCTP is a very desirable piece of equipment but can be added afterwards. They usually replace the following types of tool posts:

Lantern type - found on old machines

Turret type - found on old or cheap new machines

There are different types of quick change tool posts and below are the most common types:

Dickson type

Aloris type

Multifix type

The quick change toolpost is one of - if not the biggest time saving piece of equipment you can get for your lathe. Try and find a lathe with the toolpost and extra holders as these can be expensive or even obsolete in some cases.

Camlock spindle
A camlock spindle is a spindle with an atatchment system that does not require the chuck to be threaded onto the spindle. This means that the chuck cannot spin free when the lathe is run in reverse. It uses a bayonet fitting that engages in the spindle where the cam lock is turned with the chuck key to secure the chuck onto the spindle:

Although not absolutely critical, this is a very desirable feature as it allows you to safely operate the machine at high speeds in reverse and also change from 3 jaw chuck to 4 jaw and to collets very quickly. Just be aware though, obscure and rare spindle tapers and mounting types are often very expensive.

Digital read out
The ability to digitally read the measurements from a screen makes life much easier - especially for the novice. It helps eliminate errors due to backlash (wear in leadscrews and nuts that can cause measurement errors if not compensated for). These are manufactured by a variety of companies and not all are created equal, however all look quite similar:

Spindle brake and clutch

A spindle brake allows you to bring the spindle to a halt quite quickly. This is very useful when you are turning something heavy as the inertia will keep the chuck spinning for minutes. A clutch is also a great feature as it allows you to keep the motor running and still stop the spindle, change gears etc. This also means that for those with an electrical circuit that is on the weak side, you can limit the in-rush current strain on the circuit by having the lathe running and still be able to start other machines. Reducing the number of stops and starts on the motor increaes it's life span too. I never thought these features would be useful until I bought my Colchester Chipmaster. Now I wonder how I lived without it.

Most clutches are engaged using a leaver, either on the apron or on the headstock;

With the machines that have the clutch on the headstock, the same leaver usually engages the brake as well. If the brake is mechanical rather than electro-magnetic, the headstock leaver type is obviously weaker than a foot operated brake like the example below:

This is why foot brakes are often seen on industrial machines.

Lathe lubrication systems
 Lubrication to the headstock bearings
I believe that at this point it is important to mention lubrication for the lathe. Many of the older lathes had splash lubricated headstock bearings. This means that as the gears rotate, oil sticks to the teeth and is flung about the headstock, circulating the oil and thereby oiling all the parts within the headstock. See below:

This type of lubrication has some limits. First of all, the oil has to be thin enough that it can circulate throughout the headstock, reaching the headstock bearings and flowing out before overheating. It also means that the oil is not actively filtered - resulting in a higher particle count and reduced bearing life. It also means that if the oil level falls below the bottom gear's tooth level, there will be no lubrication. So what is the solution? An oil pump.

Oil pumps allow the oil to be circulated and actively filtered. It also allows the oil to be injected exactly where needed. If you can't tell if the lathe you are looking at has an oil pump system, remove the headstock cover and take a peek inside. The hoses are a dead give away:

The 3 clear plastic pipes are the oil lubrication lines. Most older lathes still rely on splash lubrication for the gears though as there is little need to direct oil onto the gears that can lubricate themselves simply by rotating through oil.

Some older machines such the South Bend Heavy 10 have a system that uses oil cups. These cups are topped up with oil regularly, and the oil is wicked to where it is needed through felt wicks. This lubrication system is often seen on machines that use oilite bronze headstock bushes:

Lubrication to the carriage
A lathe starts to wear the second you begin using it. The easier it is to keep contact surfaces oiled, the more likely it is that they will be oiled and the less wear the lathe will experience. On many lathes, oil lubrication to the leadscrews and ways is manual. The presence of oil ports indicates that the machine requires an oil can or pump to inject oil through to the surfaces:

These are often small and quite easy to miss. They are also prone to getting blocket or painted over on older machines. Do NOT ignore oil ports. Take the time to clean them and make a habit of oiling them every time you use your machine if you want to maintain it's accuracy as long as possible.

Alternatively, some lathes have built in oil pumps on the carriage. The Colchester Triumph 2000 for example has a piston that once pushed a few times, oils the ways and lead screws simultaneously. It is conveniently located near the cross slide wheel so there is no excuse for not keeping things well lubed:

There are after market options available such as One Shot. This system requires you to install and connect the plumbing but is worth the effort if you tend to be slack with oiling and maintenance:

Lathe bed profiles
Lathe beds come in a variety of profiles. Most that I have seen are the typical v type where the carriage rides in one v, while the tailstock rides in the other:

Some lathes such as the Weiler Primus have flat ways:

Some other lathes have a round bed with a key that keeps the carriage aligned:

Dual round bars:

... and even solid dovetail such as on the wonderful Hardinge HLVH:

Whichever type of bed the lathe has, the accuracy and surface finish of your work will depend to a large degree on the bed's rigidity. As a general rule, the more solid, heavy and wider the bed and ways, the better. A second general rule, the ways should be as wide or wider apart than the distance from the center of the ways to the spindle. The Rosenfors below takes this to the extreme:

It's also VERY desirable to get a lathe with hardened ways. This means that the bed has either been flame or induction hardened resulting in reduced surface wear when compared to non hardened ways.

Old versus new lathes
This discussion comes up all the time on the various forums. Some prefer old while others like the features found in newer lathes.
My opinion is that there are nice old lathes out there but you need to be patient and know where to look. I personally like old European machines as they have a feel and quality of finish not found in Chinese machines today.
That said, any lathe is better than no lathe when you need to manufacture something. This article gives a good example of what an old beater can do:

In (modest) praise of clunkers

One very important thing to consider when buying an old or used machine are the safety features. Old machines are often lacking an emergency shut-off and brake. This can be remedied with a VFD for a 3 phase machine.

Before you buy a lathe, I would urge you to take the time and learn how to test the accuracy of the machine. If in doubt, make friends with a machine rebuilder or decent machinist and bring them along with you.

Many machines also have quirks that are specific to the particular make. Things to check are:

• Run-out
• Leadscrew backlash and wear
• Bed wear
• Bearing noise
• Electrical system
• Clutch and spindle brake
• Spindle taper surface (damage may make the chuck / collets run out)
• Headstock oil pump (if the oil pump is not working - this may indicate worn bearings)

It is also prudent to do research on the lathe you are looking to buy. Tony Griffith's site is a fantastic resource and you should familiarize yourself with it:

http://www.lathes.co.uk

There are also a number of fourms where knowledgable people hang out. One that I haunt is the hobby machinist forum:

hobby-machinist

This forum is the friendliest I have found for beginners and is a great resource for those starting out.

When all is said and done, you need to do the homework for yourself when purchasing a machine. Take opinions for what they are worth and don't leave finding a suitable machine to luck. Work out the capacity, features and budget and then start scouring the used and new market.

Good luck in your lathe shopping and I hope you found this blog article helpful.